MIDDX.NET
Registered: March 2004
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What an incredible picture. I have NEVER seen this one before. It's amazing.
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MIDDX.NET
Registered: March 2004
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Re the shop. "Hayes Middx Supplies" maybe??
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sceenyclan
Registered: May 2008
Location: Hounslow.
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I thought that perhaps, but can't quite make out what is on display in the window.
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Pam
Registered: April 2004
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I used to go for ballroom dancing lessons at Wistowe House! Bit after this photo was taken though!
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ray
Registered: December 2005
Posts: 65
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"Hayes Middx Surgical Appliances" perhaps?
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ray
Registered: December 2005
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Enlarging the image there seems to be frames in the window display - so maybe 'Hayes Middx Studios'.
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sceenyclan
Registered: May 2008
Location: Hounslow.
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I did that Ray and wondered if perhaps they were paintings/pictures of some kind.
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MIDDX.NET
Registered: March 2004
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Can't be "studios" as the second letter is a "u" not a "t"!
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ray
Registered: December 2005
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Ah yes, well spotted. Perhaps the 't' fell off.
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Marian
Registered: February 2008
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Quote ' A pioneer in photography, B.J. Edwards lived at Wistowe House in Hayes Town. He worked on the construction and design of instantaneous shutters and originated the method of intensifying plates with mercuric iodide. He had a small factory at Wistowe House in which for a time he manufactured a special type of printing paper which was marketed as "Wisto". B.J Edwards died just before the First World War in 1914'. The quote is from 'Hayes - A Concise History.' Maybe the shop next door sold supplies relating to what was being manufactured at Wistowe House?
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sceenyclan
Registered: May 2008
Location: Hounslow.
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Thanks Marian, receiving plenty of suggestions, determined to find out what the 'other' name says.
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Marian
Registered: February 2008
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Hello Barry.. Maybe the sign is to do with printing or photography supplies, and the shop run by Mr.Edwards. I found some more information about him and he invented something called the 'Graphogenic Apparatus' and pictures were in an exhibition there taken by means of the apparatus. There is more, and this time, to do with his patent registration regarding printing-frames. Being that they could be pictures or photos in the shop window, perhaps it all links up. I am intigued as to what other suggestions you have had. Would you be able to say? Thankyou from Marian :-)
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Marian
Registered: February 2008
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Oh dear.. why is it that when we type something out, it reads differently to what we meant once we're reading it back! In the above, I didn't mean that the exhibition was there (in that shop)as I have no idea where the exhibition was. Sorry. :-)
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sceenyclan
Registered: May 2008
Location: Hounslow.
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Yes Marian I thought perhaps they were frames of some kind in the window, I think perhaps you are on the right track, curioser and curioser as they say.
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ray
Registered: December 2005
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I think everyone may be barking up the wrong tree to associate Edwards with a shop with 'frames'.
Most of Edwards' work with early photography was done mainly in the 1860s-1880s, concerning wet plate processes and printing frames (not to be confused with picture frames) and he, I believe, retired to Wistowe when he leased the house from the Minets in 1904.
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Marian
Registered: February 2008
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Yes, Ray, the frames that I mentioned in my post were cetainly printing-frames, not picture frames. I did think, though, there could be a link because of the photography invention and maybe displaying some pictures in the window. Nevertheless,it was interesting reading it all up, especially as this site displays so many old photos and so has prompted me, for one, to stop and think about the photography inventions and the progress that was being made at that time. Also, I found that Wistowe House was previously 'The Brewery'. From what you say, the paper marked 'Wistow' mentioned in my first post, must have been manufactured there during Mr Edward's retirement. More history :-)
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ray
Registered: December 2005
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Indeed Wistowe House was owned by the Isleworth Brewery until about 1892, the Minet family then leased out before Edwards took it on in 1904.
By this time there wasn't much the Minet family didn't own in the area.
The photograph was taken in 1906 and Edwards died in 1914. 'Wisto' photographic paper must have been his last real enterprise as he was 66 when he leased the house.
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sceenyclan
Registered: May 2008
Location: Hounslow.
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Another angle to pursue, I now have it on good authority that there was a dressmaker who lived along that same block who was related to Seth Hunt, but her name escapes us at the moment, perhaps the 'frames' in the window are for needlework ? (all pure speculation at the moment)
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Marian
Registered: February 2008
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My Mum said that when she was a girl, she used to go on errands to the electrical shop along there and it was called Seth's. I wonder if it was the same shop. ... Meanwhile, any nearer solving the SU mystery over the shop?
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Marian
Registered: February 2008
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Barry.. meant to ask if the relative was a dressmaker in the true sense of the word because there were 'dressmakers' at that time, on the census, who were not actually anything to do with needlework, (tactfully speaking). On the subject of the errands to Seth's, apparently my mother used to have to take the 'accumulator' there to be charged up for the radio. I think I've got that right. :-)
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MIDDX.NET
Registered: March 2004
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There was a Judd's electrical business of some kind thereabaouts in the 60s/70s. Their children used to come to our Sunday school at Hayes Town Chapel.
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ray
Registered: December 2005
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Let's not lose the fact that this photo was taken in 1906.
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sceenyclan
Registered: May 2008
Location: Hounslow.
Posts: 212
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We seem to be drifting off a bit here, although all nice memories, but to answer a couple of questions, roughly behind where the 'shop' in qustion in later years was Leemark Engineering, Judds Electrical was further along at No. 126. The Hunt family were predominent in that area Seth Hunt was the local builder/undertaker etc,. he lived on the corner of St. Mary's Road (Fountain House).
Still doesn't solve the mystery of 'SU'.
Interesting enough in 1971 there was a B.Edwards living at No. 144 (I think Little Barden), next door to George Wardlaws Butchers on the corner of Hemmen Lane.
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